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 [TOPIC] Navigon for iPhone / iPad - Testing - v1.8
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gpspassion

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Posted - 18 sept. 2009 :  14:03:46  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Haven't seen these positionning problems on the app, only slow recaculations in v1.0 that have now been fixed, any chance you were in a car with a coated windhsield ?

Careful with the speedcam alerts, it's illegal to use that feature in Germany (in Ireland and Switzerland too), hence it being off by default.

Used the iPod control feature the other day and found it made my iPhone 3G and Navigon rather slow, might be better on the 3GS.

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Enrique Muyshondt

USA
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Posted - 18 sept. 2009 :  15:07:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was in an early to mid 2000's vintage VW station wagon. I don't know what kind of windshield it had. The effects I saw were not too bad and it still beat having to carry around an AIO unit. My co-worker was impressed how in a couple of seconds I found my hotel in the POIs and we were navigating. He's now going to get the app for his newly acquired iPhone.

I didn't know the camera database was illegal in Germany. I did know about Switzerland. The application just says "traffic control" when you approach a location and puts a red dot on the road you are traveling. The dot then fades away after you pass it.

The few times I've used iPod control, it has no noticeable effect on my iPhone 3GS. The S really does stand for Speed :)

One other little nicety is that as you pass a POI pictured on the map, it fades away behind you. That is, it doesn't just disappear at once. As it get further behind you it fades until it is almost invisible as it goes off the screen. Not a killer feature, but it shows some thought was put into the map display. It's just eye candy, but nevertheless nice.
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wco81

USA
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Posted - 18 sept. 2009 :  16:20:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah my Nuvi flashed red in France about speed control. I didn't know it had that feature at all and don't see in the menus where to disable it.
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klopus

USA
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Posted - 18 sept. 2009 :  23:05:51  Show Profile  Visit klopus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
@gpspassion Your front page announcement about Navigon's being first with live traffic isn't entirely true. Navigon was just first to announce it, not to deliver. Actually with live traffic ALK CoPilot beat Navigon to the punch with immediate availability today. They just announced Premium Services across all regions for $19.99 per year. To be fair one time Navigon's fee seems to be lifetime (whatever this means). Besides other goodies CoPilot's Premium Services also include live POI search (something Navigon didn't announce) and I believe custom POIs. To top it off they promised free quarterly map updates and web page for users to enter their own map corrections. And CoPilot is still $35. Here's the link: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS143366+18-Sep-2009+BW20090918

Granted in US CoPilot has very bad reviews on the AppStore (as opposed to EU) mainly due to their dismal maps which as I understand aren't Navteq or TeleAtlas sourced. Today they updated US version with new maps but it's too early to tell from users' reviews if anything changed and if the map is still proprietary. Quite a paradox that CoPilot has inferior maps in US considering that they are located in Princeton, New Jersey.

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Garmin nuvi 270 NA/EU & 755T NA, Navigon iPhone NA

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gpspassion

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Posted - 19 sept. 2009 :  03:00:57  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Actually I was referring to the availability of the app, not of traffic ;-) Can you repost your comments about CoPilot in its topic -> http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=128830 - thanks !

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jdr

USA
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Posted - 03 oct. 2009 :  06:25:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't figure out how to enter trip planning mode so I can manually enter a starting point per the suggeston of GPS passion. Please advise.
Also, has anyone found an online manual?
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gpspassion

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Posted - 03 oct. 2009 :  11:59:07  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You need to press on the last button on the bottom right in to get more options, including the trip planning mode.

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paulkbiba

USA
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Posted - 06 oct. 2009 :  22:35:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just got back from San Francisco where I used my iPhone 3G and Navigon for the last 10 days. The software performed just fine and took me back and forth wherever I needed to go. Nothing unusual to report. The iPhone performed perfectly in San Francisco and never lost a GPS lock. I kept it in portrait mode as I got better reception that way. A winning combination as far as traveling goes.

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klopus

USA
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Posted - 08 oct. 2009 :  04:46:33  Show Profile  Visit klopus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, I also keep iPhone vertical and not only because of better reception. I prefer to see more rout ahead than more surroundings. I used iPhone for the few last trips. Yesterday for comparison reasons I switched back to my standalone Garmin 755T and was surprised how I missed Navigon's real 3D map display and portrait orientation, all this despite iPhone's smaller screen. Though you can't change voices, TTS on Navigon is also better in terms of clarity and correct pronunciation of street names. It's also "richer" with pointed words like "now".

Hope Navigon will add live traffic, rout step by step display and avoidance. If this happens I probably will seriously consider sending my Garmin to eBay.

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Defunct TomTom Nav 6 NA/EU on Palm Treo 680
Garmin nuvi 270 NA/EU & 755T NA, Navigon iPhone NA
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kyteflyer

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Posted - 11 oct. 2009 :  02:52:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anybody having success with speed cam and overspeed warnings? Aussie version allows setting up but doesn't deliver at all
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gpspassion

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Posted - 11 oct. 2009 :  13:13:53  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
You mean neither feature works at all or not fully ? Overspeed seems ok here, I activated speedcams this morning, will check again tonight.

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Enrique Muyshondt

USA
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Posted - 11 oct. 2009 :  22:13:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have seen the speedcams work in Germany just a couple of weeks ago. You do have to be navigating to a destination and drive by a camera. Just driving around I think only shows an icon on the street but doesn't seem to provide any warnings, at least if you are not going over the speed limit. I haven't done a thorough test, though. Could it be that there just aren't any speed cams in the Australian database?

The overspeed works too, but you have to exceed the speed limit by an amount you set up under Options-> General Speed Limits. I didn't try this with the European version but it does work in the US.
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kyteflyer

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Posted - 14 oct. 2009 :  16:51:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Subsequent to my previous message I have found out that the Navteq maps of Australia are seriously lacking in the information department, so in most cases its the map provider not the software. Navigon is a good looking bit of kit, but in Australia, doesnt do the speed stuff very well (apparently it works somewhat in capital cities). Likewise, the same applies to the other apps which use Navteq rather than the Aussie Sensis/Whereis (oh except tomtom which for some reason, even having the info, chooses not to let its software access it. Cams yes, overspeeding no. grrr. I'm left with Sygic as my best option)
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klopus

USA
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Posted - 16 oct. 2009 :  01:41:02  Show Profile  Visit klopus's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Navigon today announced that they submitted Live Traffic update for EU to Apple. As it's customary looks like US version will be announced in next 2 weeks. For UK they also will have paid post code search. Kinda bizarre to pay for such a simple thing. Or is it something inherently more complex with UK codes than with US zip codes?

NYC
Defunct TomTom Nav 6 NA/EU on Palm Treo 680
Garmin nuvi 270 NA/EU & 755T NA, Navigon iPhone NA
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gpspassion

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Posted - 22 oct. 2009 :  13:42:33  Show Profile  Visit gpspassion's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, the UK has zip codes with 7 numbers and in some areas you can't find an area unless you have that zip code, still seems a bit extreme to charge for it!

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