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| Jim1348 |
Posted - 02 juin 2010 : 04:55:27
Updated 20110621 - ALK have announced a new version, CoPilot Live Premium, for Android : new interface, alternative routes, new route planning mode, see details on page 3.
Orignal message - I am interested in the Motorola i1 because I have a work issued Nextel. If I were to buy my own device I may be interested in a GPS application that works independent on the wireless network. I have found that ALK CoPilot GPS v8 USA for Android appears to be the only one currently for the Android OS that has US maps and works independent of the towers. I would be interested is anybody here has used this on an Android device yet.
http://www.alk.eu.com/copilot/android/
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Consumer-Product-and-Services/Mobile-Phones/MOTOROLA-i1-US-EN
http://now.sprint.com/motoi1/ |
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| HankB |
Posted - 05 juin 2012 : 14:54:21
I'm evaluating copilot live v9 on my Droid X at the moment (the free version.) I see that it has the capacity to save routes if I upgrade to the paid version. Does anyone know if the paid version also supports the import of routes from a file? For example could it import a route saved from Google Maps (saved as .KML and converted to GPX or similar?) There is a post on this page that mentions this but provides insufficient detail for me to evaluate.
thanks,
hank |
| Yuma |
Posted - 29 déc. 2011 : 02:09:20
I'm new to the Android arena, having just got an Android Tablet (Asus Transformer TF-101) two weeks ago.
I downloaded CoPilot Live Standard and the maps seem OK for my local area, no worse then Garmin. (And for less then $3.00)
I do not use turn by turn or speed limit stuff (I have my eyes for that  )
And the fact that I do not need to be on the net makes it all the better.
Yuma, |
| Jim1348 |
Posted - 28 déc. 2011 : 08:28:03
I finally bought a Motorola Defy phone recently and I also downloaded CoPilot onto it. I will be reading through the previous posts here. Feel free to pass along any suggestions in the meantime. |
| gpspassion |
Posted - 08 sept. 2011 : 18:23:16
Yes, ALK use Navteq maps in Europe and their own maps in the USA, that's been a sore point with US users since...2001, guess they won't be changing that now. On the plus side it lets them sell the USA app significantly cheaper.
Drove 7,005 miles coast to coast this summer mostly relying on my Garmin nuvi 3790T and Google Maps Navigation. At first I did try running CoPilot too but I gave up as I ran into several map errors, many missing speed limits and plain wrong ETA (like GMN). You can modify the speeds by type of road and I was able to get a decent ETA but these tweaks didn't work the next day unfortunately. |
| igalan |
Posted - 04 août 2011 : 17:22:40
I have Navigon 3.6.2 (Iberia), which is the latest available on the Android Market. But I haven't used it much, so maybe you're right and Navigon has finally brought it to feature parity. This summer I shall have some time to test it properly. What I didn't like is that favorites are stored o a non user accessible are, so when I moved form a Nexus One to my current device, my favorites where stuck in the old device (I don't want to root or change the ROM in order to do something that should be standard).
About CoPilot, I am pretty sure it's got Navteq maps. They are virtually the same as the one Navigon has. That is for Spain, Portugal and Andorra (why they never mention Andorra?). On Europe Navteq maps are reasonably good, and don't make the mistake of having roads that are planned but not yet built, unlike Teleatlas does. |
| jeffcarp94 |
Posted - 04 août 2011 : 17:13:20
The problems that I have with the maps, when compared to competitors, is the lack of inclusion of recent (i.e., last 2 - 3 years) construction and just plain errors that shouldn't be there. I understand that they have the MapSure program and promise to add stuff. But I just am not going to spend much time fixing ALK's maps. If I spend any time fixing maps, which I do, it will be Google Map Maker, where I know there are millions of other people doing the same thing. I see no real point in contributing to fixing maps of a rather small player like ALK when I know there are few other people doing it also.
I used CoPilot v8 on a trip from Iowa to Florida last summer. I have an app on my phone that allows me to record the lat/lon of map errors and writes that lat/lon to a text file. It also opens the microphone on my phone for 15 seconds and allows me to record an explanation of the error. From Iowa to Florida I encountered 19 map errors in CoPilot v8. These were not little side streets. These were highway and even freeway errors. Bad errors like wrong interstate directions (saying to go the correct way, but calling it northbound when it is southbound, etc.) On the trip back, I used Garmin. I had 2 errors - and they were do to a recent freeway mile marker update.
The other problem that I had with CoPilot is what I observed to be its inability to differentiate between a highway in a rural and urban setting. I like to drive rural highways because we often travel in an RV. I have my preferences and speed settings set as I like them. But CoPilot will throw me straight through an urban highway that is technically only a highway in name only. In reality, it is a major city street complete with stoplights and traffic. It doesn't know the difference between that and an lonely highway in the middle of the country. |
| dahauss |
Posted - 04 août 2011 : 16:57:35
Actually in my area, the maps from copilot are pretty good.... what dont you like about them? take a look at the navigon map... it might be OK from the standpoint of what map company it uses but when you try to look at the map while driving, you cant see anything.. very low detail. I know that wasnt what you were referring to but I thought I would throw that out too..
If someone would take the best features of navigon, copilot, waze and google navigation and put it into one GREAT program, it would be awesome.. Im not a programmer that can program android or IOS apps, but I could help get this project going with others if we wanted to create a great app... not sure how though...
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| jeffcarp94 |
Posted - 04 août 2011 : 16:53:34
CoPilot doesn't use Navteq maps. They use their own. That is the biggest problem with their product. Their maps are terrible. Spend some time reading customer comments in the Android Market and Apple App Store and it is a broken record: "bad maps." It really is too bad that they do this. I've always said that I think their UI is one of the best around. But their maps are just ridiculous. |
| dahauss |
Posted - 04 août 2011 : 16:47:49
Have you played with the LATEST RELEASE of NAVIGON? I too said it was missing a LOT of features UNTIL I got the updated version about a month or so ago....
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| igalan |
Posted - 04 août 2011 : 16:32:49
Nice to hear, but it shouldn't be too difficult to get right at first try; I have no issue with this when using Navigon or Google Navigation.
Navigon is missing too many features on Android. I first used Navigon on a PocketPC, quite a few years ago. Today's Navigon has even less features, although I recognize that routing is a bit more flexible, at least it usually will give you two to three different choices. I've heard that the iOS version of Navigon is much better, but no way I'm going to carry my iPad (which is the only iOS device that I have) for GPS Navigation; anyway it's not the 3G version, so no GPS on board and no way to connect to a Blutooth GPS.
BTW a new version of CoPilot Premium was released a couple of days ago, but I haven't had time to try it. |
| dahauss |
Posted - 04 août 2011 : 15:25:36
The latest version of NAVIGON is nice but its missong things like a nice detailed MAP with POI display, POI alerts etc.
as far as the audio on copilot being cut off, I have the same issue when using bluetooth AND I am told that they are working with someone to fix this issue..
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| igalan |
Posted - 04 août 2011 : 13:08:45
I also bought this new version. Moving from CoPilot Live 8 this is what I found:
-Favorite locations did not carry over to the new version. What's more, to be able to store any location, like, I don't know, my home location, I had to "subscribe" to some "service". Why someone would think that this improves user experience is beyond me. After that I manually moved the file where CoPilot 8 stores them, to the folder where CoPilot Premium lives in, and it worked as expected; I doesn't look too hard to implement so the user doesn't have to bother manually move files, I think.
-I am still having a problems with voice instructions, much like with CoPilot 8: voice prompts are cut at the beginning making them almost useless. Most of the times I have Spotify playing music, CoPilot pauses music and then you get the voice prompt, maybe is that the problem? (who's still playing music form CDs? I would think that streaming MP3 or whatever you have on your phone is a more common scenario). Anyway I'd prefer if music volume was lowered, not stopped.
-The user interface is nice looking, but tries to go too far into making it look like a car dash or something. I just need the data and the map, everything else just gets in the way. The menu button is the most unintuitive one I've ever used. But that's mostly a personal opinion, maybe I'm too used to TomTom.
-Routing has improved. You are given some more flexibility in choosing which route to take. It's a welcome improvement.
-September 2010 maps? Really? Come on ALK, you sure have the latest Navteq maps around, don't hold them hostage!
-The naming scheme is getting complicated. CoPilot Live 8, then CoPilot Live Premium, what will be next? CoPilot Live 10 Premium Ultra Plus? A simple numeric based naming scheme should keep it nice and simple for anyone to tell which version is newer (and better!).
It all sounds a but negative, I know. But overall I think it's not a bad product, it just needs some improvement in a few areas. I my opinion Android still doesn't have a really good navigation program, and from the bunch I tried, CoPilot is the best. Navigon on Android is severely lacking. Google Navigation, beta of course, does the job of driving you from A to B just barely. I've not tried anything else. I just need something that works off-line (I'd rather use my data plan for something else), can store several locations for quickly driving you to them, a good routing engine, possibly being able to modify the route (avoiding roads/streets, driving through some defined location, etc.), and doesn't screw much on the user interface (I like it simple, it makes for a faster reading when you're driving).
BTW, it seems that CoPilot Central is finally gone. Wohooo! It was about time to break free from a desktop to keep CoPilot maps updated. |
| dbaldock99 |
Posted - 27 juil. 2011 : 18:08:18
I've ordered a Samsung Galaxy Tab 7 WiFi from Amazon (now at US$339) (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004U9USEA), and one of the AutoDASHMOUNT Portable Friction GPS Mounts from AccessoryGenie (http://www.accessorygenie.com/autodashmount-portable-friction-portable-gps-mount-p-8891.html).
We'll be using it as a GPS on a trip to the UK at the end of September, so I'm planning to buy the ALK CoPilot Live Premium for Android application.
I see on the CoPilot Live web site that they list Map Coverage information for the available European Maps, but there's not any cost or purchase information. Since I'll be buying the USA Maps version for my primary use, what's the process for purchasing / installing the UK Maps for CoPilot Live, and how much space do they need on the Internal Memory or Micro-SD card?
Thanks,
David Baldock
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| dahauss |
Posted - 01 juil. 2011 : 16:34:49
I really want to know why they made all the text on the maps and on the menus ETC SO SMALL that you an not read them easy... on V8 it was nice and clear!! this is just one of my complaints.. I sure hope COPILOT FIXES THIS and the other issues OR I will be moving to a different product.. what product is out there for ANDROID that does what copilot does (with spoken street names, custom POI and POI alerts etc)?
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| larryc |
Posted - 01 juil. 2011 : 03:56:27
Lots of questions answered here: http://blog.copilotlive.com/na/2011/06/30/all-your-questions-answered/
(No idea why the company didn't have these answers BEFORE the launch; it seems like they just pushed the product out the door without thinking through the user implications.)
Some major points:
* Copilot 8 will be sunsetted (is that a word?) later this year; no more map updates for V8 after October 15, 2011
* You will be able to transfer your active traffic license from V8 to V9, but you can't do it just yet.
* Map updates will be free for 12 months; after that you can purchase another year of updates for $9.99
I'm still torn about whether or not to upgrade. As I wrote earlier, it's only $10 or so which is really not much at all in the scheme of things. But on the other hand, I've purchased Copilot software twice so far (once on Windows Mobile, and once for Android) and each time I have found the company's support to be abysmal. Given that there appear to be bugs and/or other problems with the new release, I am hesitant to pay yet again knowing I am going to receive terrible support when I contact them.
continued : If you flash custom roms you may run into problems with Copilot V9. See the discussion over on Android forums for more details: |
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